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Asked by duncanb7
at 2024-07-14 05:52:26
ModifyPoint:500 Replies:43 POST_ID:828590USER_ID:11059
Topic:
Network Routers;Network Operations;Miscellaneous Networking
http://www.google.com.hk/#site=&source=hp&q=NEC+NTA+3110&oq=NEC+NTA+3110&gs_l=hp.3..0l2j0i30l8.1723.4947.0.5270.12.12.0.0.0.0.71.684.12.12.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.hp.DmvOZv4iGwQ&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aGc&fp=2f897365aaf46df0&biw=1311&bih=814
Please look at the deivce in the link which is ADSL modem of NEC NTA 3110
BUt someones said it is ADSL router and someones said it is ADSL modem router
let me confused. THe device I am using at home to connect to ISP
QUestion:
1- THe device is just ADSL modem, RIght ?
2- THe device is just ADSL modem and LAN ethernet switch Right ?
3- THe device is not router, RIght ?
4 Since it is not router so there is no default gateway information needed, RIght ?
5- in what condition, we need default gateway is set such as 198.168.x.x . COuld you say more ?
Please advise
DUncan
Please look at the deivce in the link which is ADSL modem of NEC NTA 3110
BUt someones said it is ADSL router and someones said it is ADSL modem router
let me confused. THe device I am using at home to connect to ISP
QUestion:
1- THe device is just ADSL modem, RIght ?
2- THe device is just ADSL modem and LAN ethernet switch Right ?
3- THe device is not router, RIght ?
4 Since it is not router so there is no default gateway information needed, RIght ?
5- in what condition, we need default gateway is set such as 198.168.x.x . COuld you say more ?
Please advise
DUncan
Expert: craigbeck replied at 2024-07-15 03:28:51
The 169.254 address is useless in terms of internet connectivity - you were not asking about communication on your LAN.
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 20:09:30
http://www.netvigator.com/eng/pages.php?url=fiber-optic-broadband
I think my resdential area is old or my buliding is old one so I am using
FTTB (Fiber-to-the-Building) So I nedd XDSL modem for connection copper
twist pair phone line to fiber network
I think my resdential area is old or my buliding is old one so I am using
FTTB (Fiber-to-the-Building) So I nedd XDSL modem for connection copper
twist pair phone line to fiber network
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 20:02:12
Thanks Craigbeck, still confusing to me,
169.254. is working when I ftp file to my second computer, why you said it si useless
I will open new thread
169.254. is working when I ftp file to my second computer, why you said it si useless
I will open new thread
Expert: craigbeck replied at 2024-07-14 13:58:08
Hi Duncan,
Following on from the previous thread relating to the same question...
The LAN connection uses 169.254.x.y when the ADSL modem or router is bridging the PPPoE connection from the ISP. This address is completely useless and in any case it isn't required. That's why the router/modem/gateway doesn't assign an address to the NIC.
As PPPoE is not an IP-based protocol, the LAN adapter doesn't need an IP address or default gateway in order to connect to the internet. The PPP connection from your PC connects using the PPPoE (Point-to-Point over Ethernet) protocol to the ISP through the LAN port via the modem/router/gateway.
Look at the IPConfig output you provided...
PPP ¿¿¿ pccw:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: pccw
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.218.x.x(¿¿¿¿) (Duncan hide the IP as x)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.255
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 0.0.0.0
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
Your subnet mask is 255.255.255.255. That indicates a /32 network address and therefore you're routing traffic via the PPP link. You don't need to do anything at all to make the connection to the internet 'normal' - it already is!
Anyhow, the other experts have provided you with an answer you could understand. Please open another thread if you need any more help with this.
Following on from the previous thread relating to the same question...
The LAN connection uses 169.254.x.y when the ADSL modem or router is bridging the PPPoE connection from the ISP. This address is completely useless and in any case it isn't required. That's why the router/modem/gateway doesn't assign an address to the NIC.
As PPPoE is not an IP-based protocol, the LAN adapter doesn't need an IP address or default gateway in order to connect to the internet. The PPP connection from your PC connects using the PPPoE (Point-to-Point over Ethernet) protocol to the ISP through the LAN port via the modem/router/gateway.
Look at the IPConfig output you provided...
PPP ¿¿¿ pccw:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: pccw
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.218.x.x(¿¿¿¿) (Duncan hide the IP as x)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.255
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 0.0.0.0
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
Your subnet mask is 255.255.255.255. That indicates a /32 network address and therefore you're routing traffic via the PPP link. You don't need to do anything at all to make the connection to the internet 'normal' - it already is!
Anyhow, the other experts have provided you with an answer you could understand. Please open another thread if you need any more help with this.
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 08:53:10
THanks for all of your reply.
It is good answer to this thread
It is good answer to this thread
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Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 08:35:25
100 points EXCELLENT
Thanks Akinsd, i was running out a non-technical terms.
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Expert: Akinsd replied at 2024-07-14 08:32:53
100 points EXCELLENT
You need to keep an open mind to understand this.
In the network world 0.0.0.0. Means any address. Since your adsl is bridged with your ISP, it connects directly to any address in the world. If you change that to a single IP, you'll only be able to connect to just that one IP
Think of a network as rooms in houses, houses on street, streets on cities, cities in states, states in countries, countries in continents etc
If you remove airports (assuming airlines are the only international transportation), you just confined yourself to a local area.
That's what you are trying to do if you remove the 0.0.0.0. Your are replacing your gate with a fence and will be stuck in the building.
Analyze the word Gateway
Gate - Way
What is a gate for
What is a way for
It's not a magical word.
Going back to apipa address. These are self assigned addresses when the computer can't find someone to give it an address.
While you are building a house and assuming the city hasn't given you an address yet, most people will use the word "site" to identify it first. There must be an identification.
Communication will still occur between 2 or more apipa addreses if they are in the same class b range.
In the network world 0.0.0.0. Means any address. Since your adsl is bridged with your ISP, it connects directly to any address in the world. If you change that to a single IP, you'll only be able to connect to just that one IP
Think of a network as rooms in houses, houses on street, streets on cities, cities in states, states in countries, countries in continents etc
If you remove airports (assuming airlines are the only international transportation), you just confined yourself to a local area.
That's what you are trying to do if you remove the 0.0.0.0. Your are replacing your gate with a fence and will be stuck in the building.
Analyze the word Gateway
Gate - Way
What is a gate for
What is a way for
It's not a magical word.
Going back to apipa address. These are self assigned addresses when the computer can't find someone to give it an address.
While you are building a house and assuming the city hasn't given you an address yet, most people will use the word "site" to identify it first. There must be an identification.
Communication will still occur between 2 or more apipa addreses if they are in the same class b range.
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:48:38
could I delete to 0.0.0.0 and replace 10.193.231.85 for default gateway if I want to
let it to be nomarl setting ?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970313
the link said becoze using Apple Bonjour sp it create 0.0.0.0 but I can NOT find
any service of APple Bonjour from msconfig command
Why it is still 0.0.0.0
let it to be nomarl setting ?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970313
the link said becoze using Apple Bonjour sp it create 0.0.0.0 but I can NOT find
any service of APple Bonjour from msconfig command
Why it is still 0.0.0.0
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:47:28
Hi Duncan,
If is correct it can be told by your ISP loginname? Yes, thats right
If is correct it can be told by your ISP loginname? Yes, thats right
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:45:37
Could you finalize this thread from my last question posts
Please advise
Duncan
Please advise
Duncan
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:44:26
If you said it is correct I am using the modem as bridge directly access internet by PPPoe
that can be told by the login name of mine that is myloginname@netvigator.com
netvigator is my ISP of pccw at Hongkong.
www.netvigator.com that is PCCW ISP at HK
that can be told by the login name of mine that is myloginname@netvigator.com
netvigator is my ISP of pccw at Hongkong.
www.netvigator.com that is PCCW ISP at HK
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:41:30
could I delete to 0.0.0.0 and replace 10.193.231.85 for default gateway if I want to
let it to be nomarl setting ?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970313
the link said becoze using Apple Bonjour sp it create 0.0.0.0 but I can NOT find
any service of APple Bonjour from msconfig command
Why it is still 0.0.0.0
let it to be nomarl setting ?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970313
the link said becoze using Apple Bonjour sp it create 0.0.0.0 but I can NOT find
any service of APple Bonjour from msconfig command
Why it is still 0.0.0.0
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:30:43
On your machine you are directly connected to your ISP. (as we learned, the device is connected to the internet is the degault gateway, so your computer is)
If any computer on your network needs access to Internet they should appoint your computer as a gateway (providing you configure internet sharing on your machine)
If any computer on your network needs access to Internet they should appoint your computer as a gateway (providing you configure internet sharing on your machine)
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:27:03
COuld you write it clearly
you dont need a gateway. You are the gateway :)
You are the gateway. What is that means
you dont need a gateway. You are the gateway :)
You are the gateway. What is that means
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:24:56
THe connection to internet for both computers but this is my personal network
concept question, I found a lot not strange thing from ipconfig/all about
the default gatway , just want to correct my concept
concept question, I found a lot not strange thing from ipconfig/all about
the default gatway , just want to correct my concept
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:24:35
Not necessary to delete 0.0.0.0
Yes youre right, bravo!, because you use the modem as a bridge (hence connecting to the ISP directly) you dont need a gateway. You are the gateway :)
Yes youre right, bravo!, because you use the modem as a bridge (hence connecting to the ISP directly) you dont need a gateway. You are the gateway :)
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Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:22:42
50 points EXCELLENT
Wow you have a multiple gateway config at home, impressive :)
Dont worry, you will not (often) come across this kind of configs in the professional SysAdmin world.
In normal world situation your computer enable DHCP meaning it will ask a DHCP server for its ipnumber, dns server and standard gateway.
This will normally be provided by a DHCP server OR a modem router(home & small office)
Dont worry, you will not (often) come across this kind of configs in the professional SysAdmin world.
In normal world situation your computer enable DHCP meaning it will ask a DHCP server for its ipnumber, dns server and standard gateway.
This will normally be provided by a DHCP server OR a modem router(home & small office)
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:22:00
TYping mistake
=============
Up to this comment,
I still not able to delete 0.0.0.0 default gateway using route delete 0.0.0 command
OR it is not neccessary to delete it becoz the ADSL is using in bridge mode instead of modem mode
Is it right ?
Please advise.
Duncan
=============
Up to this comment,
I still not able to delete 0.0.0.0 default gateway using route delete 0.0.0 command
OR it is not neccessary to delete it becoz the ADSL is using in bridge mode instead of modem mode
Is it right ?
Please advise.
Duncan
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:21:11
Up to this comment,
I still not able to delete 0.0.0.0 default gateway using route delete 0.0.0 command
OR it is not neccessary to delete the ADSL is using in bridge mode instead of modem mode
Is it right ?
Please advise.
Duncan
I still not able to delete 0.0.0.0 default gateway using route delete 0.0.0 command
OR it is not neccessary to delete the ADSL is using in bridge mode instead of modem mode
Is it right ?
Please advise.
Duncan
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:18:43
I also tried tracert on second computer, the first entry is 10.193.235.85
10.193.231.85 is the default gateway for first computer(win 7) that is rrelated to port 3 of ADSL router
10.193.235.85 is the default gateway for second computer(win xp) that is related to port 2 of
ADSL router.
So it seems 10.193.x.85 is default gateway(or door to internet) for the 4 ports of ADSL device
10.193.231.85 is the default gateway for first computer(win 7) that is rrelated to port 3 of ADSL router
10.193.235.85 is the default gateway for second computer(win xp) that is related to port 2 of
ADSL router.
So it seems 10.193.x.85 is default gateway(or door to internet) for the 4 ports of ADSL device
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:15:53
Haha COOL!
You both have apipa adress but with matching subnet
169.254.109.44 computer a
169.254.39.175 computer b
Subnet 255.255.0.0
This means you can connect to any apipa address in the range 192.254.x.x
(i dint even know this was possible, so cool to learn again)
You both have apipa adress but with matching subnet
169.254.109.44 computer a
169.254.39.175 computer b
Subnet 255.255.0.0
This means you can connect to any apipa address in the range 192.254.x.x
(i dint even know this was possible, so cool to learn again)
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:12:06
tracert result for second computer of window XP from first computer window 7
¿¿¿ 30 ¿¿¿¿
¿¿ HP-PC [169.254.39.175] ¿¿¿:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms HP-PC [169.254.39.175]
¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿ 30 ¿¿¿¿
¿¿ HP-PC [169.254.39.175] ¿¿¿:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms HP-PC [169.254.39.175]
¿¿¿¿¿
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:06:47
I am using ftp command in window command, and set those direcotry/folder in sharing mode between two computers in control-panel of window
THe username and password is set using FTP client Filezilla software kitp
On WIndow 7 computer cmd shell, type ftp command
c:>ftp 169.254.x.x. ////////////for other comptuer using window XP
THe username and password is set using FTP client Filezilla software kitp
On WIndow 7 computer cmd shell, type ftp command
c:>ftp 169.254.x.x. ////////////for other comptuer using window XP
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 07:05:47
I am using ftp command in window command, and set those direcotry/folder in sharing mode between two computers in control-panel of window
THe username and password is set using FTP client Filezilla software kit
just on WIndow 7 computer
c:>ftp 169.254.x.x. ////////////for other comptuer using window XP
THe username and password is set using FTP client Filezilla software kit
just on WIndow 7 computer
c:>ftp 169.254.x.x. ////////////for other comptuer using window XP
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 07:02:41
No i understand what it says, i do not understand you default gateway is never mentioned.
Must be due to PPP adaptor config.
How do you connect to the ftp machine? name or ipadress?
What if you enter?
tracert <ftpmachine, name or ip>
Must be due to PPP adaptor config.
How do you connect to the ftp machine? name or ipadress?
What if you enter?
tracert <ftpmachine, name or ip>
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:59:37
Do you need me to translate it into Eng ?
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:57:25
ipconfig/all result but in chinese, that is not much different from the one I sent you before
in English translation for window 7 computer
Windows IP ¿¿
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: samsung-PC
¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . .:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿
IP ¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
WINS Proxy ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . : ¿
PPP ¿¿¿ pccw:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: pccw
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.218.x.x(¿¿¿¿) (Duncan hide the IP as x)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.255
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 0.0.0.0
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Bluetooth ¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Bluetooth ¿¿ (¿¿¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-02-78-77-77-35
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-1B-9E-B7-1B-86
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿-¿¿ IPv6 ¿¿ . . . . . . . : fe80::2190:4497:48c7:6d2c%11(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . .: 169.254.109.44(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.0.0
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886007
DHCPv6 ¿¿¿ DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-5E-1A-D9-00-13-77-69-82-00
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Reusable Microsoft 6To4 Adapter:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #2
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{0243A325-A64E-4E51-A899-A584CE01F95F}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ 6TO4 Adapter:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{101F1F9C-816B-4662-A50E-B9AAAB3AA900}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 11:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #4
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 2:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #3
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{8704DD9A-38B7-43BA-993E-A9723AD18B30}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 13:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #5
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 14:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #6
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 15:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #7
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv6 ¿¿. . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2002:cbda:afde::cbda:afde(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2002:c058:6301::1
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
in English translation for window 7 computer
Windows IP ¿¿
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: samsung-PC
¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . .:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿
IP ¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
WINS Proxy ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . : ¿
PPP ¿¿¿ pccw:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: pccw
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.218.x.x(¿¿¿¿) (Duncan hide the IP as x)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.255.255
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 0.0.0.0
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Bluetooth ¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Bluetooth ¿¿ (¿¿¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-02-78-77-77-35
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-1B-9E-B7-1B-86
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿-¿¿ IPv6 ¿¿ . . . . . . . : fe80::2190:4497:48c7:6d2c%11(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ IPv4 ¿¿ . . . . . . . .: 169.254.109.44(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 255.255.0.0
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .:
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886007
DHCPv6 ¿¿¿ DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-5E-1A-D9-00-13-77-69-82-00
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Reusable Microsoft 6To4 Adapter:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #2
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{0243A325-A64E-4E51-A899-A584CE01F95F}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ 6TO4 Adapter:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{101F1F9C-816B-4662-A50E-B9AAAB3AA900}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 11:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #4
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 2:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #3
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ isatap.{8704DD9A-38B7-43BA-993E-A9723AD18B30}:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 13:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #5
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 14:
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #6
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
¿¿¿¿¿ ¿¿¿¿* 15:
¿¿¿¿ DNS ¿¿ . . . . . . . . :
¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #7
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . : ¿
¿¿¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . .: ¿
IPv6 ¿¿. . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2002:cbda:afde::cbda:afde(¿¿¿¿)
¿¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2002:c058:6301::1
DNS ¿¿¿ . . . . . . . . . . . .: 218.102.52.81
218.102.23.77
NetBIOS over Tcpip . . . . . . . .: ¿¿
Assisted Solution
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:51:55
50 points EXCELLENT
yes it is the default gateway.
So what is the total output for
ipconfig /all
So what is the total output for
ipconfig /all
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:49:14
What is 10.193.231.85
somebody told me before 10.193.231.85 might be my ADSL default gateway since it is
first entry point to the network, is it possible ?
somebody told me before 10.193.231.85 might be my ADSL default gateway since it is
first entry point to the network, is it possible ?
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:48:34
What is 10.193.231.85
somebody told me before 10.193.231.85 might be my ADSL default gateway, is it possible ?
somebody told me before 10.193.231.85 might be my ADSL default gateway, is it possible ?
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:47:27
tracert result for yahoo.com
¿¿¿ 30 ¿¿¿¿
¿¿ yahoo.com [98.139.183.24] ¿¿¿:
1 * * * ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
2 22 ms * 17 ms 10.193.231.85
3 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms wtsc3a005.netvigator.com [218.102.40.5]
4 20 ms 18 ms 19 ms wtsc3a018.netvigator.com [218.102.40.18]
5 29 ms 17 ms 24 ms tenge5-2.br02.hkg04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.253.61]
6 188 ms 189 ms 190 ms 63-218-179-34.static.pccwglobal.net [63.218.179.34]
7 216 ms 240 ms 235 ms as-1.pat2.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.101.150]
8 242 ms 278 ms 246 ms UNKNOWN-216-115-96-X.yahoo.com [216.115.96.54]
9 274 ms 276 ms 297 ms ae-2-d181.pat2.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.104.115]
10 270 ms 292 ms 352 ms ae-3.msr1.bf1.yahoo.com [216.115.100.29]
11 292 ms 276 ms 290 ms ae-3.msr2.bf1.yahoo.com [216.115.100.31]
12 242 ms 271 ms 254 ms UNKNOWN-98-139-128-X.yahoo.com [98.139.128.83]
13 259 ms 279 ms 274 ms UNKNOWN-98-139-128-X.yahoo.com [98.139.128.83]
14 274 ms 295 ms 272 ms ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.183.24]
¿¿¿ 30 ¿¿¿¿
¿¿ yahoo.com [98.139.183.24] ¿¿¿:
1 * * * ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
2 22 ms * 17 ms 10.193.231.85
3 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms wtsc3a005.netvigator.com [218.102.40.5]
4 20 ms 18 ms 19 ms wtsc3a018.netvigator.com [218.102.40.18]
5 29 ms 17 ms 24 ms tenge5-2.br02.hkg04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.253.61]
6 188 ms 189 ms 190 ms 63-218-179-34.static.pccwglobal.net [63.218.179.34]
7 216 ms 240 ms 235 ms as-1.pat2.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.101.150]
8 242 ms 278 ms 246 ms UNKNOWN-216-115-96-X.yahoo.com [216.115.96.54]
9 274 ms 276 ms 297 ms ae-2-d181.pat2.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.104.115]
10 270 ms 292 ms 352 ms ae-3.msr1.bf1.yahoo.com [216.115.100.29]
11 292 ms 276 ms 290 ms ae-3.msr2.bf1.yahoo.com [216.115.100.31]
12 242 ms 271 ms 254 ms UNKNOWN-98-139-128-X.yahoo.com [98.139.128.83]
13 259 ms 279 ms 274 ms UNKNOWN-98-139-128-X.yahoo.com [98.139.128.83]
14 274 ms 295 ms 272 ms ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.183.24]
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:44:50
And I tested it before, I unpluged one of cable, the ftp file transfer is not successful so that
it proved 169.25.x.x is working for ftp o plug only under the condtion both cable is pluged into ADSL router
it proved 169.25.x.x is working for ftp o plug only under the condtion both cable is pluged into ADSL router
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:43:48
What does tracert say?
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:43:20
And I tested it before, I unplug one of cable, the ftp file transfer is not successful so that
it proved 169.25.x.x is working for ftp
it proved 169.25.x.x is working for ftp
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:42:27
No I don't have any WIFI stuff
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:41:09
If you can connect through other machines i suspect you have a wifi connecting which you did not show in the ipconfig.
Please open cmd prompt and put in
tracert <ipadress of next computer you can ftp in>
Please open cmd prompt and put in
tracert <ipadress of next computer you can ftp in>
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:32:37
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_169.254.10.1_indicates
the link mentions
169.254.10.1 is an IP address generated automatically by a computer when it is unable to lease an address from a DHCP server. It is called an Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA) address.
SO from your reply, DHCP can not generate 192.169.x.x address for ethernet even DHCP
is enabled for my case so it automatically generate APIPA address
if 168.25.x.x is invalid,
But why I still ftp file to my next other computer through ADSL router, I get two
computer one is window 7 , the other is window XP., Why ?
the link mentions
169.254.10.1 is an IP address generated automatically by a computer when it is unable to lease an address from a DHCP server. It is called an Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA) address.
SO from your reply, DHCP can not generate 192.169.x.x address for ethernet even DHCP
is enabled for my case so it automatically generate APIPA address
if 168.25.x.x is invalid,
But why I still ftp file to my next other computer through ADSL router, I get two
computer one is window 7 , the other is window XP., Why ?
Assisted Solution
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:16:21
50 points EXCELLENT
PPP adaptor pccw:
===================
DNS Prefix:
DHCP Enable: No
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 218.101.xxx.xxx I MASK YOUR IP ADRESS FROM Wanganui, no need for us to see.
funny! yesterday you was from HongKong right?
Subnet mask:255.255.255.255
Default gateway:0.0.0.0
DNS server: 205.252.144.126
205.252.144.123
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Stop
Here you are connected to the internet directly (hence no need for gateway) so you are not using the modem as a modem but as a bridge.
===================
DNS Prefix:
DHCP Enable: No
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 218.101.xxx.xxx I MASK YOUR IP ADRESS FROM Wanganui, no need for us to see.
funny! yesterday you was from HongKong right?
Subnet mask:255.255.255.255
Default gateway:0.0.0.0
DNS server: 205.252.144.126
205.252.144.123
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Stop
Here you are connected to the internet directly (hence no need for gateway) so you are not using the modem as a modem but as a bridge.
Assisted Solution
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:13:11
50 points EXCELLENT
Ethernet LAN:
=================
DNS Prefix:
Desciption:Realtek RTL8139/810 Faimily Fst Ethernet NIC
LOcation: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP Enabled: Yes
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 169.254.109.44
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
default gateway:
DNS server: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Enable
This Ethernet connection is not connected. Ip addresses starting with 169 are invalid addresses also called APIPA address.
Since apipa means not connected it has no default gateway.
=================
DNS Prefix:
Desciption:Realtek RTL8139/810 Faimily Fst Ethernet NIC
LOcation: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP Enabled: Yes
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 169.254.109.44
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
default gateway:
DNS server: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Enable
This Ethernet connection is not connected. Ip addresses starting with 169 are invalid addresses also called APIPA address.
Since apipa means not connected it has no default gateway.
Assisted Solution
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:08:32
50 points EXCELLENT
Think of your ISP as being the Internet. (all ISP's in the world form the internet right?!)
You need a device that connects to the internet (modem).
For your internal LAN you need a way to tell the computers where the 'door'(=default gateway) is to the internet. (internal ip address modem/router)
Let me clarify 'door'
When you have 10 computers in a Lan, they all need to pass the same device (door) to get on the internet. The default gateway!
Default gateway (0.0.0.0) is not needed for the modem, only for your clients. Your modem does not need a 'door' because it is directly connected to the internet. IT IS THE DOOR.
You need a device that connects to the internet (modem).
For your internal LAN you need a way to tell the computers where the 'door'(=default gateway) is to the internet. (internal ip address modem/router)
Let me clarify 'door'
When you have 10 computers in a Lan, they all need to pass the same device (door) to get on the internet. The default gateway!
Default gateway (0.0.0.0) is not needed for the modem, only for your clients. Your modem does not need a 'door' because it is directly connected to the internet. IT IS THE DOOR.
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:04:20
If it is router, why the default gateway is set to be 0.0.0.0 ?
Where is the gateway ?
it is concept question.
Where is the gateway ?
it is concept question.
Author: duncanb7 replied at 2024-07-14 06:03:30
Since my window is chinese, so translate the ipconfig output as follows for your review
PPP adaptor pccw:
===================
DNS Prefix:
DHCP Enable: No
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 218.101.120.240
Subnet mask:255.255.255.255
Default gateway:0.0.0.0
DNS server: 205.252.144.126
205.252.144.123
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Stop
Ethernet LAN:
=================
DNS Prefix:
Desciption:Realtek RTL8139/810 Faimily Fst Ethernet NIC
LOcation: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP Enabled: Yes
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 169.254.109.44
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
default gateway:
DNS server: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Enable
PPP adaptor pccw:
===================
DNS Prefix:
DHCP Enable: No
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 218.101.120.240
Subnet mask:255.255.255.255
Default gateway:0.0.0.0
DNS server: 205.252.144.126
205.252.144.123
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Stop
Ethernet LAN:
=================
DNS Prefix:
Desciption:Realtek RTL8139/810 Faimily Fst Ethernet NIC
LOcation: 00-13-77-69-82-00
DHCP Enabled: Yes
AUto configuration: Yes
IPv4 : 169.254.109.44
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
default gateway:
DNS server: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over TCPIP: Enable
Assisted Solution
Expert: Patricksr1972 replied at 2024-07-14 06:01:18
50 points EXCELLENT
Hi Duncan,
To me it looks like a ADSL modem router.
Modem because it connects you to your ISP.
Router because it handles (routes) traffic from the ISP to your internal (wifi) Lan.
For your computers you need to specify the default gateway (being the internal ip adress of you NEC device)
If your internal network has 192.168.1.x (for example) mostly the default gateway is at either 192.168.1.1 (first available ip number) OR it is on 192.168.1.254 (last available ip number for subnet 1)
To me it looks like a ADSL modem router.
Modem because it connects you to your ISP.
Router because it handles (routes) traffic from the ISP to your internal (wifi) Lan.
For your computers you need to specify the default gateway (being the internal ip adress of you NEC device)
If your internal network has 192.168.1.x (for example) mostly the default gateway is at either 192.168.1.1 (first available ip number) OR it is on 192.168.1.254 (last available ip number for subnet 1)
